Skip to content

MH370 – What I Think Happened After I Saw It.

October 19, 2014

There are not really many realistic theories gallivanting around about MH370.  Only a few of those fit what I saw.  I have referred to a few of them in previous posts.  Of primary importance is Flight Test Engineer Stewart Stoddart’s theory, that what I witnessed was an engine fire which caused MH370 to be flying much more slowly than the ATSB and IG seem to be considering.  His theory, supported over several test flights on a simulator, fitted all the known data, including that from Inmarsat and radar, and put the plane on that 7th arc somewhere near Christmas Island, on a course of waypoints heading to a large empty airport in the NW corner of Australia. The pdf report can be downloaded here:  A SIMULATED FLIGHT OF MH-370 #2

Glowing orange pane in dark

A graphic representation by E Fortuin of the plane I saw that night, best downloaded and viewed on a tablet in the dark, held up a little bit. A few imperfections I’d like to note: firstly I recall the plane being a uniform orange [1] and secondly I don’t recall seeing smoke in front of the plane, only behind it. Otherwise, it’s absolutely perfect.

Stewart worked with a small team, including a graphic artist who illustrated my sighting, after strings of emails discussing everything from the shade and brightness to the stars.  Although I don’t remember which stars I could see at the time, I do remember their intensity.  It was humid, and probably hazy, which would explain the lack of intensity of the stars, and also the ‘halo’ which I saw around the plane.  Also, it is worth noting that the plane was moving, and therefore so was the source of the orange light, which could well have been the reflection of an engine fire.  I’m thinking of the effect sparklers used to give at Guy Fawkes, when we’d all write our names in thin air.  That would also explain why it resembled a missile when approaching from afar – I was seeing a fire from in front.

I want to share Stewart’s most refined observation window, since that illustrates what I saw and when I saw it:

Stew Stoddart: Graphic Representation of MH370 Passing

Stew Stoddart: Graphic Representation of MH370 Passing

Also, I will share the smaller scale graphic, which shows a continuation of where I saw that plane go (I find this quite spooky since it fits with two locations where people have found debris on Tomnod, discussed below):

Stew Stoddart: Graphic Representation of simulated MH370 Flight Path.

Stew Stoddart: Graphic Representation of simulated MH370 Flight Path, two independant analyses, red track by Stewart and green track by Richard Godfrey.  Note Stewart allows line up for an attempted landing on Andamans, and Richard allows a circle in ’empty airspace’.

After Stewart published, though, the Inmarsat data calculations were adjusted and the data then didn’t quite fit his theory AFTER the flight passed me. The data still all fits until it passed by me.  What I know is that I saw what I saw, and the data fits what I saw.  After my sighting, nobody yet knows. Stewart is still reviewing the data, and stated on his own website a few days ago: “Recent simulation flights have clearly indicated that the single-engine portion of the flight as described in the initial thread above must be adjusted. This adjustment is needed because the single-engine configuration maximum true airspeed of 390 knots at 13,000 feet and maximum continuous thrust, can not meet the time and distance requirements of the BTO ping rings. A new route south with new waypoints is being evaluated.” I look forward with eager interest to hear his progress, because it is the ONLY  two theory I have seen  which fit what I saw AND the Inmarsat data, and therefore is the ONLY two theory which would vindicate the world governments or whoever has the capability of faking satellite data.

There, I’ve said it again.  I think the Inmarsat data is, if not fake, at least so redacted and incomplete as to be useless.  I have approached many scientists, including Duncan Steel, Bobby Ulich and others, but NONE of them can give me any proof as to why the data is to be believed. I have heard answers ranging from “I trust my Government” to “They are simply too complicated to be made up”, but nothing solid can be found to prove this data is real.  Not anywhere.

So without SOLID proof of the satellite data, that leaves me to believe that what I saw was indeed what I had been worried I had seen.  That plane was flying at low altitude towards the military convoy we had passed two and three nights previously to this sighting.  Marc drew a chart of where we saw those lights (and subsequently what we believe to be an acoustic target buoy), and emailed it to ATSB in early June:

Marc Horn: Reconstruction of sighting of military vessel.  The yellow diamonds indicate the approximate location in which the vessel was travelling.

Marc Horn: Reconstruction of sighting of military vessel. The yellow diamonds indicate the approximate location in which the vessel was travelling.

Compare the location of that convoy to the direction in which I saw that glowing orange plane flying off to.  On top of that, internet research showed a Chinese flotilla was in the area at the time.  A contributor (Lucy Barnes) on Duncan’s Blog sent me this linkto Hafiz Sulaiman’s article on Malaysia Flying Herald. Interestingly, this post was also pulled after the discussions started about it, apparently since the author is a Malaysian aviation enthusiast with a strong loyalty to his government.  He published a chart which showed the Chinese Flotilla slap bang in the middle of this area.

So, when I put all the bits I saw together, and add in what I have learnt subsequently, I believe my initial belief was probably the correct one.  I believed that this plane was a kamikaze plane, aiming at that military flotilla, and they shot it down.  My belief has changed little.

But, I hear you say, there would have been debris if that had been the case. Perhaps.  It could have made a controlled landing on the ocean and suck intact, leaving minimal trace.  But there IS evidence of debris out there. Several volunteers  who have been crowd sourcing over at Tomnod have found images of debris which have been ignored (or at least met by silence) despite constant notification, in public, to the authorities.

Ana Lucia (@lucia_brazil) was the first to contact me with a theory that it went down West of Bandeh Aceh.  She contacted me via Twitter to show me an image where she had found debris on Tomnod (the debris images have also been published by her on Twitter):



She also sent me copies of eye witness reports from a Malaysian shopkeeper who saw a plane glowing over the sea in that area (Bandeh Aceh Post) West of Bandeh Aceh. And yes, I know, this report seems to have been pulled as well, now.

But, more recently, Michael Blades (@dewrat81) posted this image to Twitter:

Michael Blades: Location of wreckage West of Bandeh Aceh.

Michael Blades: Location of wreckage West of Bandeh Aceh.

So.  In summary.  I believe that MH370 was a brilliantly planned and executed attack either on the Chinese or by the Chinese.  It fits.  After cutting communications on MH370 and evading radar over the Malay Peninsular and up the Malacca Straights, they activated an incendiary device of Lithium Batteries (they also would fit with the colour and glow I saw) then aimed straight at that flotilla.  If it was an attack on the Chinese, then to hijack a plane with twenty odd Chinese intelligence workers who were top level communications researchers and aim it at a Chinese flotilla is MASSIVE.

If that is what happened, then of course the world powers want to hide what happened.  It would be worth faking satellite data and creating false evidence to cover up that sort of horror, if only to prevent WW3.  Don’t forget,  ping rings have before been used to successfully locate a missing plane in the case of AF447, so it is an obvious (if genius) technique to use to fake a trail using this principle. And if the West has helped to cover up this mess, then no doubt China owes them a big one, and will start falling into line and playing the Western Game.  We’ll see.

Perhaps it wasn’t intended as an attack.  Before it’s turn South, MH370 was on an air route usually used for air travel to Iran. Perhaps it was intended as a simple hijack, but something went terribly wrong, like that engine fire, and it turned back to try and make a landing.  Having failed, maybe it flew out to sea for safety (whose safety, I can’t imagine, if it was intended as a terrorist attack anyway), and the guys on that flotilla thought it was a missile aiming at them, since all communications had been cut.  Either way, we’ll never know.

I do find it intriguing that debris resembling a helicopter has been identified in the area of Mike McKay’s sighting, though, over in the Gulf of Thailand. It makes me wonder if perhaps MH370 was simply an innocent victim of military exercises over on that side of the sea… and its subsequent maneuvering was indeed a heroic attempt by the crew to land the plane safely in Penang, Langkawi, car Nicobar, then Bandeh before aborting and setting a safe flight course over open water before losing consciousness. But that wouldn’t explain the lack of communications.

Even if they find a shard of that plane down in those oil/gas fields off Western Australia, the majority of the world will never believe it was a genuine find.  I certainly won’t.  It’s East of Bandeh Aceh.

Edit, 20 Oct:

Duncan Steel closed his blog to comments about a month ago, in order to focus on other things in life.  Since then, discussion (at least by many of the contributors to the DS blog) has moved to here:

For an almost complete compilation of published reports on the matter, this is a reliable source:

Edit, 21 Oct:

I need to offer an apology to Victor Iannello. There is a second theory which I forgot to include, which also fits both my sighting and the satellite data.  Victor speculates that MH370 landed in Bandeh Aceh, offloaded whatever cargo was of value, and then took off again, fly South to ditch the plane.  I initially felt this theory was too far fetched, since it implies that what I saw was a second plane (glowing orange?  Why?), but I actually know nothing that would suggest that his theory could not have happened:  Scenario with a Landing at Bandeh Aceh.

18 Comments leave one →
  1. October 20, 2014 10:27 pm

    I listed just two examples of debris found near the North of Indonesia, and Malacca Straits (and remember, we were in the approach when this passed), but there are numerous examples out there. For example, this NewsMax report dated 12th March 2014:

    With thanks to Cyndi L Hendry (@CyndiLHendry) who is absolutely worth following for the gems she rakes up!

  2. Kate permalink
    October 22, 2014 6:09 pm

    Thank you to Luigi Warren, who directed me to this early CNN. Report which indicated an anonymous official from an ‘authority’ stated the aircraft had dropped to 12,000 feet before disappearing from radar. Of course, this scenario would make it impossible for the flight to have flown as far South as ‘authorities’ are now searching.
    CNN report of low altitude from ‘authority’.

  3. November 5, 2014 11:21 am

    From Ken Staubin: Debris field off the coast of Sumatra, although the images were taken a week later.

  4. November 8, 2014 2:49 pm

    Interesting blog discussing what Nostradamus had to say about this:

    Extract: “I believe this quatrain tells the whole story, with the current news only the tip of the meaning that will unfold. I believe the main theme statement (line one) indicates two people working in concert, such that each took on a chemical of some kind on board, perhaps in a travel bag or carry-on. Each would be inert alone, but when combined the two agents will create something, possibly a gas that (minimally) put the pilots in an unconscious state, one that prevented them from making an emergency call, or killed the pilots (if not all on board). This combination did not create any explosion, as line two indicates the possibility that the plane will be found mostly intact. Line three confirms it was an act of terror, thus not a natural occurrence or accident; and line four states a “fleet” is involved in some way, which can be air and/or naval.”

  5. November 8, 2014 11:49 pm

    OMG. Here we have a real confession, just the week before MH370 disappeared, in a court of law, of a known (Al Qaeda) terrorist who was conspiring to hijack a plane:

    “An al-Qaeda supergrass told a court last week that four to five Malaysian men had been planning to take control of a plane, using a bomb hidden in a shoe to blow open the cockpit door.
    Security experts said the evidence from a convicted British terrorist was “credible”. The supergrass said that he had met the Malaysian jihadists – one of whom was a pilot – in Afghanistan and given them a shoe bomb to use to take control of an aircraft.
    A British security source said: “These spectaculars take a long time in the planning.” 15March2014

    • November 8, 2014 11:51 pm

      I wonder. Would a small bomb in the cockpit / E&E bay be enough to set alight that consignment of lithium batteries in the hold adjacent to the E&E bay? If these guys weren’t aware of that consignment, then it’s very possible that’s why their plot went wrong. Note what I wrote here about MH370 flying that commonly used route to Tehran?

  6. November 9, 2014 2:14 am

    Another reason I don’t believe the Inmarsat data. The Chief commisioner of the ATSB has personally told me that were the plane at a low altitude of say 10,000ft, it wouldn’t be able to make the distance required to the ping rings:

    “Kate said…
    Can you tell me what the overall effect on the track would be if the altitude were lower than previously presumed, say about 10,000 feet?

    Also, would a lower altitude have an effect on the estimated positions of the arcs?
    JULY 17, 2014 03:02 View all comments by Kate

    Martin Dolan, Chief Commissioner (author) said…
    The general effect if the altitude were lower was that the aircraft would not have the required performance to reach the 7th arc. A lower altitude of the aircraft does have a relatively small effect on each arc position – this is taken into consideration with arc width over the range of altitudes.
    JULY 30, 2014 09:40 View all comments by Martin Dolan, Chief Commissioner”.

    As I have said, having observed flights at known altitudes since then, I am certain that flight was at an altitude of less than 6000 feet even. The ATSB might not believe me. Maybe they do believe me, but can’t admit it due to pressure from the governments. But I KNOW what I saw, and that plane, according to Martin Dolan himself, could not have flown as far as the Southern Indian Ocean.

    It is possible, though, that the flight could have made the 7th arc, but further North. Martin Dolan was wrong on that point.

  7. November 12, 2014 12:47 pm

    A cover up? My husband decided it was a good thing that we didn’t put out a distress call. He believes that if they were going to these lengths to hide what happened to that plane, they’d have gone to any lengths to shut up anyone who could prove what had happened. And it appears there WAS a distress call about this plane. I have heard of this before, but now I have the link to the article in the China Times:

    “The distress call was recorded by a US Navy listening post VTBU-Rayong at U-Tapao, Thailand. The US Embassy handed over tape recordings to the Malaysian Government but your Government will not mention the distress call in the preliminary accident report.”

  8. November 24, 2014 2:19 am

    The University of Science and Technology of China has announced a possible location for the crash site of Malaysia Airlines flight MH 370 based on two seismic recordings (stations KUM and IPM of the Malaysia National Seismic Network; see map). The proposed site is in the Gulf of Thailand (orange hexagon on map).

    Seems to be very close to where that Tomnod debris was found.

  9. November 24, 2014 2:40 am

    The Tomnod debris West of Bandeh Aceh:

    “MJ submitted his Tomnod find (tagged on March 18) to the FBI, who told him that if the images were good, they’d be passed on — which the FBI apparently did, because one Debra Galwey (from AMSA) then contacted MJ and asked him for more. MJ says that was around the 18th or 19th of March; he had ‘daily conversations’ with Galwey, who told him that the images were ‘positive’. I asked MJ if AMSA/Galwey qualified or explained what positive meant, but he said she did not. Moreover, he says that once JACC got involved, all of the communication about the ‘positive’ images he’d submitted stopped. After asking Galwey why the communication had ground to a halt, MJ says her final reply (about three days after the SMH article was published) was “your images are still being analysed”.”

  10. November 25, 2014 3:14 am

    (Michael John) shared that he’d challenged Shay Har-Noy (Tomnod’s co-founder) directly about changes Tomnod had made to map locations in their database (waiting for more info on this).

    Har-Noy’s response:

    “Hi Michael,
    You are trying to reverse engineer the database through the URLs, which is not the intention of the system. Every map has a location saved in the database.”

    MJ (to us): “I noticed after I contacted Luke Barrington things started changing.”

    Luke Barrington is the Senior Manager, Geospatial Big Data at DigitalGlobe (which acquired Tomnod).

    According to MJ, Barrington was trying to distract him from looking at images near Sumatra.

  11. December 5, 2014 1:54 am

    So, in an experiment released to the public this morning, the FAA found it took 45minutes for this lithium fire to explode. It was suggested on Duncan’s Blog that the colour of the glow I saw was suggestive of a lithium fire.

    Wasn’t it about 45 minutes until MH370 disappeared after take off?

  12. December 10, 2014 12:54 am

    “Malaysia’s air force chief, Rodzali Daud, said military radar detected an UFO in an area in the northern Malacca Strait at 2.15am local time on Saturday about an hour after the plane vanished from air traffic control screens.”

  13. February 27, 2015 1:06 am

    Thanks once again to @nihonmama who found this gem in the comments section of the Daily Mail… yet another eyewitness report that got lost in the shuffle (probably because it was filed with the police and not with the press)! This timing actually would fit with the time at which I saw the glowing plane (ignore the article, it’s only this comment which is of interest):

    Jaxx, Langkawi, Malaysia, 11 months ago
    My friend watched a large plane flying very low at 2.20am on the evening of the disappearance. It had no lights on apart from the undercarriage which was brightly lit. This was at Gungung Raya , Langkawi, Malaysia. Gungung Raya is a large mountain on the island. She thought at first it was going to crash but maintained its low flight through the mountains. This is an area of dense rainforest. The Thai plane sited on radar was at 2.13am at Butterworth around 10 mins flyiing time from here. My friend has lodged a report with the police

    Read more:
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

  14. February 27, 2015 1:46 am

    OK, so CNN aviation analyst, Jeff Wise, says publicly in NY Mag that he has found proof that the data could have been spoofed:

    “For a long time, I resisted even considering the possibility that someone might have tampered with the data. That would require an almost inconceivably sophisticated hijack operation, one so complicated and technically demanding that it would almost certainly need state-level backing. This was true conspiracy-theory material.

    And yet, once I started looking for evidence, I found it.”

    Now, I don’t hold with most of what he says (that the Russians kidnapped it), since I saw that plane, and it was flying South. But in this article he has outlined in detail how the data could have been faked. And he’s the expert. He is absolutely discrediting the validity of whathever data the Aussies are basing their SIO theory on…

  15. March 18, 2015 10:50 pm

    Back in November I called out on Twitter for GeoResonance to prove their technology and relocate the search to where I believe it went down. A few minutes of Google searching showed me that this company had been publicly discredited by the CIA. WHAAAAT? The CIA doesn’t do that… do they? My feeling was that means they are hiding something. Anyway, the Company Director called me, and we spoke for an hour… an enlightening hour at that. Anyway, finally the company have made a public statement. Here it is:

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: Logo

You are commenting using your account. Log Out /  Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )


Connecting to %s

Witches Walk

Embracing your energy and finding your power

Saucy Sailoress

Ramblings of a geopolitically naive gypsy!

Charlotte's Blog

Ramblings of a geopolitically naive gypsy!


Live Small, Venture Wide



Sailing Sereno

Adventures in sailing, one couples story

MAP Wave Analysis

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." Albert Einstein

%d bloggers like this: